David and Justin get serious and dial things back a bit with this somber track. They also chat about addiction, adolescent innocence, and demo-itis. Zac Hall from 9to5Mac shows up at 01:45:23.

Explore some of Zac’s projects here:

• 9to5Mac.com
• SpaceExplored.com
• 9to5Mac Watch Time
• 9to5Mac Happy Hour podcasts

Check out Drugs or Me here!

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